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<WL>得 [de] (grammatical function)  [dé] get, reach, achieve  [děi] should
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<WL>得 [de] (grammatical function)  [dé] get, reach, achieve  [děi] should/must@@; (HDZ:) …
 
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Originally 貝 (bèi) ‘shell, money’ over 寸 (cùn) ‘hand’: to get your hand on some money.
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In Shuōwén the character 得(􀔼𢔶) dé ‘get’ combines 彳(􀔘) chì ‘go/walk (slowly)’ on the left, and 㝵(􀔽􁝸䙷) dé ‘get’ on the right; 㝵 itself is defined twice in SW: first (under 彳 radical) it is simply defined as an abbrev. form of 得; later (under 見 radical) it is given its own entry, and there said to combine 見(􁝪) jiàn ‘see’ and 寸(􀡻) ‘measure (the pulse)’; this kind of duplication is seen in Chinese dictionaries when there are variant/competing analyses of the semantics and component structure.
has become reduced to 旦 (dàn) in the modern form, and (chì) ‘footstep’ has been added, meaning that you have to reach the 貝 money before you can 寸 get it (彳 footstep also means ‘conduct’; compare 德 dé ‘virtue’).
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Older graphs (OBI) associated with 得/㝵(􀔽􁝸䙷䙸𡬩㝶𠭁𥃷𧴫) are said to combine 貝(􁄑) bèi ‘cowrie-shell (money)’ (not 見, as in the Seal) and 又 ‘hand’ (get your hands on some cash).
得 děi ‘must, should’ is an extension of the meanings ‘get’ and ‘achieve’, where getting money is regarded as a necessity or an obligation.
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Note: In the modern forms 得/㝵, the old component /見 is reduced to 旦 dàn ‘dawn’.
#rG.529.08 W.45e K.AD980,GSR905d D.2.828.3 L.159 M.6161 KX..367.31 B.199.0.05
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Note: 得 děi ‘must/should’ is said to be an extension of ‘get/achieve’ (one must get money).
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Compare: 德(􀔙) dé ‘virtue’ (道德), formerly wr. 㥁(􁲉悳), 𢜖(􁲊), and assoc. with 得.
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HDZ: 得 : dé : (甲) 从又持贝; 得到, 获得 (ant. 失); 贪得; 采用, 采取; 相遇, 遇到; 控制, 驾驭; 便利, 有利; 投合, 投契; 适合, 适当; 晓悟, 了解; 完成; 足, 满足; 及, 到; 可, 能够; (结束) (同意; 禁止); (副词) (岂; 特); (周易) 德 • děi : (旧读) dé : 必须, 应该 • de : (助词) 可能, 能够 (这房子还住得); (跑得快); 了: 完成; (语气词)
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Latest revision as of 02:33, 23 October 2018

[de] (grammatical function) [] get, reach, achieve [děi] should/must; (HDZ:) …

3 monosyllabic entries in The ABC Chinese-English Comprehensive Dictionary (namespace Ci):

³de {A} inf. (used in r.v.)kàn∼jiàn 看∼见 able to sees.p. (used to link a verb and the manner clause that follows it)shuō ∼ kuài 说∼快 speak quicklydà ∼ nábudòng 大∼拿不动 so big that it can't be movedcmp. (potential complement)Tā hǎo le, xiànzài chī∼ le. 他好了, 现在吃∼了。 He's well again and can eat now.
děi {A} aux. mustv. 〈environment:〉 coll.needWọ̌ dẹ̌i zǒu le. 我∼走了。 I must go.should be
¹dé {A} v.getresult inbe fit/properbe satisfiedbe finished∼le, bié shuō le. ∼了, 别说了。 OK! OK! That's enough.

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In Shuōwén the character 得(​𢔶) dé ‘get’ combines ​ chì ‘go/walk (slowly)’ on the left, and ​(​) dé ‘get’ on the right; ​ itself is defined twice in SW: first (under ​ radical) it is simply defined as an abbrev. form of 得; later (under ​ radical) it is given its own entry, and there said to combine ​ jiàn ‘see’ and ​ ‘measure (the pulse)’; this kind of duplication is seen in Chinese dictionaries when there are variant/competing analyses of the semantics and component structure.
    Older graphs (OBI) associated with 得/​(​𡬩𠭁𥃷𧴫) are said to combine ​ bèi ‘cowrie-shell (money)’ (not ​, as in the Seal) and ​ ‘hand’ (get your hands on some cash).
    Note: In the modern forms 得/​, the old component ​/​ is reduced to ​ dàn ‘dawn’.
    Note: 得 děi ‘must/should’ is said to be an extension of ‘get/achieve’ (one must get money).
    Compare: ​ dé ‘virtue’ (​), formerly wr. ​(​), ​𢜖, and assoc. with 得.
    HDZ: 得 : dé : (​) ​; 得​, ​得 (ant. ​); ​得; ​, ​; ​, ​; ​, ​; ​便, ​; ​, ​; ​, ​; ​, ​; ​; ​, ​; ​, ​; ​, ​; (​) (​; ​); (​) (​; ​); (​) ​ • děi : (​) dé : ​, ​ • de : (​) ​, ​ (​得); (​得​); ​: ​; (​)
►references: Guǎngyùn:529.08; Wieger:45e; Karlgren:AD980,GSR905d; Hànyǔ Dà Zìdiǎn:2.828.3; Lindqvist:159; Mathews:6161; Kāngxī Zìdiǎn:367.31; Bǐshùn Guīfàn:199.0.05; Wáng(1993):140; EDOC:1
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